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Official Invitation for our Next KarmaCritic ContestAlright good people, here's the deal! Our next contest begins tomorrow! Our contest in plainspeak and quickiexplained: phase 1 is about "who can write the best script in a given genre and theme" while phase 2 is about "who can actually shoot the best film based on that winning script from phase 1". Everyone votes everywhere. At the end we put all films and scripts together (as well as behind-the-scenes footage, interviews and other extras) inside a well-made DVD, and we try to sell it. Profits will be split amongst everyone, larger shares to the winners. Now the details: PHASE 1 Phase 1 of the show is a writing contest. All KarmaCritters are welcome, and its free to become a KarmaCritter. You may submit as many scripts as you want, provided they meet the following criteria:
Points number 1 and 2 are at my discretion, points 3 and 4 are pretty objective. Now, the following is not mandatory, but just friendly advice: keep in mind you're writing potentially for a short film with a 250 dollar production budget cap. Let this knowledge help you drive your choices regarding setting, number of actors, FXs, etc.
PHASE 2 Once again, everyone is welcome to submit an entry. The requirements:
Once again, points 1 and 2 are subjective to my discretion (I reserve the right to request copies of your receipts if a dispute ensues), while 3, 4 and 5 are pretty objective.
NOTES ON BOTH PHASES
DISTRIBUTION AND PROFIT SHARING
TITLE AND IMAGERY Working on both as we speak!! Go vote! Any questions? Please ask away, lets hammer out anything that's pending with the info that is known! Tomorrow monday.... We Begin Writing!! Remember: Horror-Comedy with the theme "Practice Makes Perfect"! Best of luck everyone! Stay tuned for a contest page SUBLIM style tomorrow! Submitted by FableForge on November 25, 2007 - 9:03pm. |
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Nice
You did a great job explaining everything.
JOHN MEREDITH
WWW.MEREDITHFILMS.COM
Questions
Once you upload your script is it "locked"? Can you modify and change it? Allowed re-writes like Sublim?
Also, can the directors release their films on their own?
How about the losing scripts? Can they be produced and posted elsewhere?
The reason I ask is that if I do a film I may want to be able to post it places whether it wins or not, same with the script.
Are these things addressed somewhere?
I think this is a good and fun idea, but the more I think about it, the more legal holes I find.
JOHN MEREDITH
WWW.MEREDITHFILMS.COM
Quotes
Yup, endless re-writes are allowed, nothing is locked until the deadline, just like SUBLIM.
As for the rest of your questions:
Copyright over their own work always remains the property of the
contestant who submits it, but KC will have the right to compile and
sell this work in a DVD, for which you'll receive a percentage of the
profits. Portions of your work may also be used in promotional
materials.
That pretty much means the answer to them all is "yes".
Mmhh.... legal holes......
Legalese
After just having an extended discussion with a lawyer about copyright issues (they were incorrect about it.) I would really recomend some kind of printed or written agreement with the screen writer, and then with the filmmakers as well.
Steven Gladstone
Director/Cinematographer
http://www.gladstonefilms.com
Absolutely!
Yup, just like we did with SUBLIM:
http://www.karmacritic.com/contestte...
I'll have all the paperwork ready :)
Oh goodie
Might I suggestmoving the deadline to the week before X-mass. Thus giving a chance for everyone's script to be available.
If I finish and submit my script the day before the deadline, it may hurt my chances. Granted I know, the seener the script is in the more likely to be read, but. . .
Steven Gladstone
Director/Cinematographer
http://www.gladstonefilms.com
Deadlines and Reveals
Well, on Jan 1st we have the reveal of who the SUBLIM winner is. I guess we could make it a double reveal day, and use that day for the winner of Phase 1 too. That would give the week after xmas for everyone who submitted in the bleeding edge of the deadline to gather some votes. So aye, we could have it both ways, we could have deadline on Xmas, and still a week after that to gather votes. That works.
Then again, the advantage early submitters get is there 100% by design.. we wanna get this rolling, and reading some scripts will inspire others so aye, I want to see some entries rather sooner than later :) Cant wait to see what you come up with!
Been Brainstorming
Now that we have all the elements, I have been doing some brainstorming, horror-comedy with a "practice makes perfect" them is definatley a challenge.
I want to get something online ASAP and work on re-writes, rather than wait till the last minute.
Trying to decide on my monster.
JOHN MEREDITH
WWW.MEREDITHFILMS.COM
Thanks Marco-this is going to be fun.
JOHN MEREDITH
WWW.MEREDITHFILMS.COM
Forest
to all the scriptwritters
have you ever seen in a forest
what a woderful place for horror and comedy
please make it easy in an order to low budgeting
we could spend a couple of days in the forest to make our movie
or with a little mix of other locations
everyone have a car too
commarcal roads are easy to afford too
Hear Hear!!
Yes!
Please writers, keep in mind the budget...!! Forests are easy to find, so are roads and everyone has a car. Not everyone has an Asylum or a Laboratory :)
Question: do we need permission to shoot film in places like parks or cemetaries? Does anyone know?
Permissions
Theoretically, any public location should have permission for usage. Especially if you're going to be using prop guns, etc. And, you really want police to know that you're filming.
For state or city property, like parks, you go through your mayor's office or through your state film commission for permission. It's a tricky line on public property like that. Becuase they may want you to fill out all sorts of paperwork, with fees, etc. I typically stay away from any government-owned land.
Even on private property, unless you own it or someone you know owns it, like a business, you should always at least ask.
Just my opinion on the matter.
sounds like fun.
Darn It!
I made up about 5 horror-comedy, and/or horror shorts today, unfortunately...none with the "practice makes perfect" theme...developing.
JOHN MEREDITH
WWW.MEREDITHFILMS.COM
I really regret suggesting
I really regret suggesting these themes. They were meant to be taken as a joke. I mean c'mon, "Practice makes perfect?"
I want to make up for this bad idea by suggesting some newer ideas on how to make it work.
The Perfect Kill/Getting away with murder - Going about committing this sin has to be done just right. No screws up. Planning ahead and making sure everything is precise. Could turn into a game of Clue or Alfred Hitchcock's Dial M for Murder comes to mind.
Someone is so driven to reach their goal (become a dancer/performer/artist/famous/etc., that they'll do anything to get there. No matter what sacrifice they have to make or whatever competition they have to eliminate. They'll do it.
Someone gives up their dream and now in the future they look back on it a regret giving up now that they live a total life of misery. If only they kept at it. Maybe someone else achives that dream and they grow jealous of them. Maybe they want to kill or curse that person.
Also, a Masters of Horror Episode called Incident on and Off a Mountain Road comes to mind. The protagonist married a survival freak and he used to make her train in self defense and combat. She didn't want anything to do with it and ended up leaving him after he became abusive. But then one night when her car breaks down in the middle of nowhere, she is stalked by a killer and now her survival skills are put to the test. Maybe something similar can be done. Someone forced to pursue another's goal, and it pays off in the end during the worst of moments.
Hi Brendan
I can come up with tons of "practice makes perfect" stories but the challenge really is the 250 buck limit combined with 7 - 13 minutes, combined with horror-comedy.
None of the above suggestions seem like horror-comedy, I don't think, I guess they could be.
I guess if you put Chevy Chase in The Shining, it would have been funny? ;) Hey wait, thats a good idea, National Lampoon's Haunted Holiday Vacation.
I hope to crap out a story, but if I don't I will be real interesting to see what the others come up with.
There actually have been very few horror-comedies made when compared to other genres.
Nice to stretch your writer's brain though, makes regular writing seem easier.
JOHN MEREDITH
WWW.MEREDITHFILMS.COM
Good Horror Comedies/Horror films with Comical aspects:
Freak Out:
Bad Taste
Evil Dead 2
The Toxic Avenger
Cemetery Man
Re-Animator
Nice list but none with the "practice makes perfect" theme.
JOHN MEREDITH
WWW.MEREDITHFILMS.COM
WRONG!
I think that theme can actually be applied to Re-Animator, Evil Dead 2, and Freak Out.
My "Practice Makes Perfect" Idea
Hey Brendan, its a perfectly valid theme! Plus, the tribe spoke and voted it up, it cant be that bad! :) And Meredith: I agree completely: restriction do make for great brain exercise! Restrictions force us to be creative!
I havent started writing mine, I'm still letting it grow in my mind a little bit more, but its going to be about....
A wannabee serial killer than bungles everything, but out of sheer luck keeps the police baffled and taking him for a mastermind. Then he finally gets it right and so, gets caught :)
Something like that :)
Good list Brendan!!
I couldnt finish the contest page last night, but I will today, we'll post all of this there :)
Brendan
Okay, I see what you mean now.
I guess it depends on how strict we are on theme and genre.
Maybe I am being to self-criticle.
Is there going to be a big hoopla over whether the scripts match the theme and genre perfectly?
JOHN MEREDITH
WWW.MEREDITHFILMS.COM
An american werewolf in London
that is the line
so great movie!!!
Fee for non members?
Is there a fee for someone who's not a member of this site? I haven't made a film yet.
Free as beer!
Its okay if you havent made a film, most of us havent either. Simply post a few pages of your script anywhere in the internet and put a link to that in our registration page. Thats all it takes, and you're welcome aboard! Glad you're interested in the contest!
Having trouble signing up
Well, I posted my script on my Myspace page, included the link to the page on the form here, and I can't log on. No notification to my email either. Anything specific I need to be doing?
I approved your account within the first 5 minutes :)
Hey Mike, I read some of your script One Kill, I approved your account within the first 5 minutes of your making it :) mrusso555, yes?
and your email is wishfishproductions at yahoo? Maybe check your spam folder, sometimes the welcome email lands there. If its not there, reply back here and I'll manually set your password and email it to you. Let me know :)
I gave the wrong email addy
Stupid me; my email is wishfishproductions@gmail.com, NOT yahoo. My bad. Hope it can be corrected.
Thanks!
No problem, its fixed!
You should be getting a new email with your password link on it anytime now. Lemme know if there's any trouble! :)
Script for contest submitted
Hope I did this right...submitted a script for the horror/comedy contest in Word. Please give me a shout and let me know if the format is okay, etc.
Thanks!
It's in!
It would probably be best if you had it as a PDF file, (try http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfc... if you dont know how to generate PDFs), but thats optional: its readable as it is, and its officially in the contest now! I'll read it and post my comment on it, welcome to KarmaCritic!!
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